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"The existence and force of natural law (derived from universal human nature and 'natural rights') has been continually disputed by those [philosophers, politicians, etc] who claim that the state should exercise limitless power over individuals.
Early in the seventeenth century Thomas Hobbes argued that the nature of man was not such that one could deduce natural law from it, or rather he argued that the natural law so deduced placed no important limits on the power of the ruler to do as he pleased, to remake society as he wished, that social order was purely a creation of state power.
Hobbes claimed that in a state of nature, it is a war of all against all, and life is 'poor, solitary, nasty, brutish, and short'. This of course is a direct contradiction of the usual natural law argument that man is a social animal, adapted by nature (enlightened self-interest) to live mostly peaceably with his fellow men, and do business with them quietly.
Therefore, Hobbes argued, the state is entitled to unlimited power, and right is whatever the state, through its laws, says is right, and wrong whatever the state says is wrong. An 'unjust law' is a contradiction in terms because the will of the state is itself the standard of justice, thus the ruler can do no wrong. The ruler is answerable to God, but everyone else is answerable only to the ruler.
Hobbes saw rights as a creation of state power...[rather than an unalienable individual human natural birthright, as believed by John Locke and the 'Founding Fathers' of the United States of America and therefore stated in their Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. For example consider the initial words of The Declaration of Independence: 'When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security....']
...Hobbes also argued that even if men know what is just, they will not always do what is just, and that this will often lead to war. This is of course true, but that argument does not lead to the conclusion that men should submit to absolute power. Quite the contrary. As [philosopher, John] Locke argued, and as the twentieth century dramatically showed, inequality of power does not lead to less use of unjust force, but to greater use of unjust force. Human wickedness is an argument for liberty, not an argument for absolute forms of government.
This argument is no longer used by the modern successors of Hobbes. To conclude for absolutism, it is necessary to argue, as Hobbes argued, that men 'cannot' know what is just (natural ethics - i.e. Golden Rule) use of force, and must be provided with an arbitrary definition of justice by some authority possessing a single will, as Hobbes argued. To argue for absolutism from human evil, as both Hobbes and De Maistre also argued, is foolish, and these days nobody makes that argument, regardless of their political persuasion.
If the war of all against all occurs because men cannot know what use of force is just, then indeed law is a creation of the state, as Hobbes argued, and the state is above the law, as Hobbes argued, and social cohesion derives from the will of the ruler, as Hobbes implied. But if violent conflict occurs because of simple uncomplicated evil acts by evil men, then his arguments are invalid, and the arguments of Bastiat and Locke apply — law is collective self defense, thus the state must govern under law, it is not the source of law. The state cannot justly use force in ways that would be illegitimate for an individual in a state of nature. Social cohesion derives from arrangements to ensure that people apply retributive force justly and that the use of such force can be seen to be just, what nineteenth century people called 'due process and the rule of law'. Social cohesion does not derive from a single central will, contrary to Hobbes arguments and assumptions....
Plainly, some kinds of society are more natural than others. When the state attempts to impose an unnatural form of society (i.e. political socio-economic philosophy), it requires a large amount of coercive violence to impose this form, and the state undermines its own cohesion in the process. [In order to avoid this lack of social legitimacy democracy has found many advocates. Democracy - rule by the majority and their representatives - is an attempt to reduce a physical contest to a political contest so the force of human violence is replaced by the force of human votes and justified by Bentham's philosophy of Utilitarianism of 'the greatest good for the greatest number'. This is better than physical violence but, unless restrained by the preservation of unalienable individual human natural rights that are beyond the ability of the majority to alter for their own selfish benefits, is no better than violent mob rule where the minority are exploited legally by the majority using the state's monopoly powers of legal force and coercion. Human nature, natural rights and natural law exist regardless of any totalitarian or democratic governance to the contrary.]" - James A. Donald
[http://jim.com/rights.html ]
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"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." - Samuel Adams
(1722 - 1803), one of the United States of America's 'Founding Fathers'
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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." - Thomas Jefferson
(1762 - 1826), 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the US Declaration of Independence.
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"There are natural and imprescriptible rights which an entire nation has no right to violate." - Marquis De Lafayette
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"In the end, everything is political [i.e. nothing is personal, private, subjective, individual, free]." - Karl Marx
Founder of the Communist political philosophy.
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"A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers." - Friedrich August von Hayek
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"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant [- for example people voting for Hitler in Germany and Mussolini in Italy] has made our generation understand that to choose one's government [even through a democratic process] is not necessarily to secure [individual justice and] freedom [especially if those governments have too much unlimited legal and physical power, which ultimately allows, even encourages, them to turn that power against their citizens at the first sign of trouble for them]." - Friedrich August von Hayek
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"We must face the fact that the preservation of individual freedom is incompatible with a full satisfaction of our views of distributive justice." - Friedrich August von Hayek
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"In deeper Jewish thought, this is really the societal ideal and vision – to set up a society of people who are strong in their individuality [individualism] and willing to share that for the benefit of others..." - Rabbi Eliyahu Yaakov
He's an international speaker on Kabbalah, relationships, parenting, and life. He is the author of the bestselling books 'Human by Choice: A Kabbalistic Path to Self Help' and 'Jewish By Choice: A Kabbalistic Take on Life and Judaism'.
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"According to the [political] élites... their doctrine of [fiscal and monetary] stimulus is righteous because immorality is something that only afflicts agents other than the state’s. Outsiders (i.e., private individuals and businesses) are potentially evil, but insiders (namely politicians and bureaucrats) apparently wear halos. As a result, if you and I do it, it’s theft (which is clearly bad); but if the state’s agents do it, it’s taxation and fiscal policy (which, the establishment stridently insists, is even more obviously good). Further, if you and I undertake it, it’s counterfeiting and fraud (bad); but if central bankers do it, it’s monetary policy (good). If you and I do it, it’s mass murder (and an unspeakable evil); but if soldiers, sailors and airmen wearing the state’s costumes do it, it’s the collateral damage of foreign policy (which is necessary to promote and protect 'national security'). In short, if you and I harm others, that’s obviously bad; but if the agents of state command and control, that’s unarguably good – and anybody who says otherwise is clearly stupid or dangerous or both.
Our overlords’ conceit is ancient. Throughout recorded history, the most significant 'somebody' threatening liberty and stealing property has not been the common thief: it has been the Leviathan state. Secular rulers, as St Augustine famously described them in 'The City of God', are 'gangs of criminals on a grand scale.' Au-gustine noted the state originated not through some fictitious 'social contract' or voluntary arrangement but rather through force, robbery and murder:
'A gang is a group of men under the command of a leader, bound by a compact of association, in which the plunder is divided according to an agreed convention. If this villainy wins so many recruits from the ranks of the demoralised that it acquires territory, establishes a base, captures cities and subdues peoples, it then openly arrogates to itself the title of kingdom, which is conferred on it in the eyes of the world, not by the renunciation of aggression, but by the attainment of impunity. For it was a witty and truthful rejoinder which was given by a captured pirate to Alexander the Great. The king asked the fellow, 'What is your idea, in infesting the sea?' And the pirate answered, with uninhibited insolence, 'the same as yours, in infesting the earth! But because I do it with a tiny craft, I’m called a pirate: because you have a mighty navy, you’re called an emperor.' " - Chris Leithner
[http://www.leithner.com.au/newsletter/jul12_newsletter.pdf ]
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"[Secular rulers - kings, politicians and bureaucrats are...] gangs of criminals on a grand scale. [The state originated not through some fictitious 'social contract' or voluntary arrangement but rather through force, robbery and murder:] A gang is a group of men under the command of a leader, bound by a compact of association, in which the plunder is divided according to an agreed convention. If this villainy wins so many recruits from the ranks of the demoralised that it acquires territory, establishes a base, captures cities and subdues peoples, it then openly arrogates to itself the title of kingdom, which is conferred on it in the eyes of the world, not by the renunciation of aggression, but by the attainment of impunity. For it was a witty and truthful rejoinder which was given by a captured pirate to Alexander the Great. The king asked the fellow, 'What is your idea, in infesting the sea?' And the pirate answered, with uninhibited insolence, 'the same as yours, in infesting the earth! But because I do it with a tiny craft, I’m called a pirate: because you have a mighty navy, you’re called an emperor.' " - St Augustine
Quote from his book, 'The City of God'
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"To summarise, as a political and personal morality, libertarianism can be summed up in five [seven] words: thou shalt not initiate force [or fraud]." - Mark Tier
'Politics', vol. X, no. 2, November, 1975, pp. 164-68.
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" 'Big Government' or socialism is not so much a system for redistributing wealth (it is certainly not a system for creating wealth) — but a system for controlling people and competitors. Socialism simply puts power in the hands of the government..." - Lang Hancock
Speech to the Institute of Purchasing and Supply Management in Canberra in 1978, then published in their journal 'Purchasing and Supply' (June 1978), pp. 12-13. [http://economics.org.au/2012/07/australias-slide-to-socialism/ ]
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"The game of life is like the game of boomerangs, deeds and words return to us sooner or later with astounding accuracy [and reciprocity]." - Florence Skinner
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"It is easy to dodge our responsibilities, but we cannot dodge the consequences of dodging our responsibilities." - Sir Josiah Stampr
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"One of the great mistakes is to judge [political and bureaucratic] policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results." - Milton Friedman
Highly regarded American economist. Quote from an interview With Richard Heffner.
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"[When people talk about the so-called 'greed' motive in capitalism and contrast that with what they cast as a better motive in socialism and communism, remember the following reply to help clarify what they are really saying:] Is it really true that political self-interest is nobler somehow than economic self-interest?" - Milton Friedman
Highly respected American economist. Quote from an interview with Phil Donahue in 1979. [http://www.businessinsider.com/milton-friedman-on-greed-2012-7 ]
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"Government does not grow by [just] seizing our freedoms [our adult independence], but by [primarily] assuming our responsibilities [treating us as feeble children]." - Michael Cloud
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"When the government's boot [excessive power and authority to force and coerce] is on your throat [freedom to choose, live and peacefully prosper], whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence." - Gary Lloyd
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"[Self-Defence for Individuals and Society through Personal Self-Defense, Police and the Military:] The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defense. The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside... Horrid mischief would ensue were (the good) deprived of the use of them ... the weak will become a prey to the strong. [Only criminals and would be criminals would even consider choosing to live together in a social contract were their inalienable right to life and their personal property were not protected]." - Thomas Paine
(1737-1809) 'US Founding Father', pamphleteer and author. Source: 'Writings Of Thomas Paine' (M. Conway ed. 1894); 1776, Thoughts on a Defensive War.
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"Life is always insecure. The only choice is between liberty and insecurity, on the one hand, and insecurity and enslavement on the other. The true patriot scrutinizes the actions of his own government with unceasing vigilance. And when his government violates the morality and rightness associated with principles of individual freedom and private property, he immediately rises in opposition to his government." - Jacob G. Hornberger
American author, journalist, politician, founder and president of the Future of Freedom Foundation. Source: 'Gun Control, Patriotism and Civil Disobedience', Pamphlet published by International Society for Individual Liberty.
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"[Ethics and morality requires the individual to have the courage to say no to immoral authority and the misuse of power, for example with illegal business activity and illegitimate war:] There comes a point when a man must refuse to answer to his leader if he is also to answer to his own conscience." - Hartley Shawcross
(1902-2003), prosecutor at Nuremberg War Crimes tribunal
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"Justice, being violated, destroys;
justice, being preserved, preserves:
therefore, justice must not be violated, lest violated justice destroy us." - Manusmriti
written also as Manusmriti or Manusmruti, and also known as Mānava-Dharmaśāstra, is the most important and earliest metrical work of the Dharmaśāstra textual tradition of Hinduism. Generally known in English as 'the Laws of Manu', or Dharmic discourse to vedic Rishis, on 'way of living' of various classes of society. The text presents itself as a discourse given by the sage Manu, to a group of seers, or rishis, who beseech him, after the great floods, in the vedic state of 'Brahmavarta' some 10,000 years ago, to tell them, how to face such calamities and lead an organised life with the 'laws of all the social classes'.
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"I say RIGHTS [natural human birthrights], for such they have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government; Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws [whether decided by any earthly authority, whether an individual or a group, including a democratic majority, for they are unalienable]; Rights, derived from the great Legislator of the universe." - John Adams
(1735-1826), 'US Founding Father', 2nd US President
Source: 'A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law', 1765.
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"The problem is to find a form of association [social contract] which will defend and protect with the whole common force the person and goods [private property] of each associate, and in which each, while uniting himself with all, may still obey himself alone, and remain as free as before!" - Jean-Jacques Rousseau
(1712-1778) French political philosopher, educationist and essayist. Quote from his book, 'The Social Contract', 1762.
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"He alone is free who lives with free consent under the entire guidance of reason." - Baruch Spinoza
(1632-1677)
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"[Politicians and bureaucrats who feel they need to have more power, and thereby curtail the power of individuals, to implement their plans over individuals for the common good should remember...] By pursuing his own interest [every individual] frequently promotes that of the society more effectually [just like any other self-organising 'organism'] than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good." - Adam Smith
(1723-1790) Scottish philosopher and economist.
Source: 'An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations' (1776), Book IV, Chap. 2 (New York: Random House, 1937, p. 423)
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"By a Declaration, [individual] Liberty [protected by law] is born. With Courage she is nourished, and with unceasing Commitment she is guarded." - Eric Schaub
Editor of Liberty Quotes, http://liberty-tree.ca
Source: 'The Common Man', 2003.
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"For [classical liberalism], the individual is the end, and society the means. For fascism, society is the end, individuals the means, and its whole life consists in using individuals as instruments for its social ends." - Alfredo Rocco
(1875-1925), Quote from 'The Political Doctrine of Fascism'.
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"The state is the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies, too; and this lie creeps from its mouth: 'I, the state, am the people [when in fact there are only individuals; although it can act on occasion with the consent of the majority and disregard for the many minorities].'" - Friedrich Nietzsche
(1844-1900) German philosopher. Quote from his book, 'Thus Spake Zarathustra'.
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"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
(1722-1803), known as the 'Father of the American Revolution.' Quote from Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776.
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"Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign." - John Stuart Mill
(1806-1873) English philosopher and economist.
Source: 'On Liberty' (1859) (Indianapolis: Hackett Publishing Company, 1978), p. 9
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"[Freedom of religion and belief:] Being tolerant does not mean that I share another one's belief. But it does mean that I acknowledge another one's right to believe, and obey, his own conscience [so long as they too believe in an equal right to tolerance towards others]." - Viktor Frankl
(1905-1997) former prisoner of a Nazi concentration camp. Source: 'The Will To Meaning'.
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"Anger is as a stone cast into a wasp's nest!" - Malabar Proverb
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"The devil tempts all men, but idle men tempt the devil." - Arabian Proverb
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"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it." - Malcolm X
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"[Freedom of Association:] In countries where associations are free, secret societies are unknown. In America there are factions, but no conspiracies [except of criminals]." - Alexis De Tocqueville
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"Men are not [just] punished for their for sins, but [also] by them." - Kin Hubbard
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"[Foreign policy:] The greatest nations have all acted like gangsters and the smallest like prostitutes." - Stanley Kubrick
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"[Politics and government is continually creating conflicts of interest. For example, politicians promising to improve the position of the poor when they need at least half of the population to stay poor in order to guarantee enough in a democratic vote to stay in power. Remember] He's a fool that makes his doctor his heir." - Benjamin Franklin
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"[Freedom of thought, opinion, speech, expression, press and censorship along with Freedom of Association:] ...like trees falling in remote woods, if a protest happens and there's no media to record it, was there a protest?" - David Galland
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"[While physical equality is not possible for any length of time, equality of treatment is and it is the only moral behavior amongst people. The Jim Crow laws in the US were an example of discrimination and unequal treatment that Americans are now rightly ashamed of:]
The Jim Crow laws were state and local laws in the United States enacted between 1876 and 1965. They mandated 'de jure' racial segregation in all public facilities in Southern states of the former Confederacy, with, starting in 1890, a 'separate but equal' status for African Americans. The separation in practice led to conditions that tended to be inferior to those provided for white Americans, systematizing a number of economic, educational and social disadvantages. 'De jure' segregation mainly applied to the Southern United States. Northern segregation was generally 'de facto', with patterns of segregation in housing enforced by covenants, bank lending practices, and job discrimination, including discriminatory union practices for decades.
Some examples of Jim Crow laws are the segregation of public schools, public places, and public transportation, and the segregation of restrooms, restaurants, and drinking fountains for whites and blacks. The U.S. military was also segregated.
These Jim Crow Laws followed the 1800–1866 Black Codes, which had previously restricted the civil rights and civil liberties of African Americans with no pretense of equality. State-sponsored school segregation was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States in 1954 in Brown v. Board of Education. Generally, the remaining Jim Crow laws were overruled by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965." - Wikipedia.org
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"[Freedom and] Choice strengthens all." - Neal Prescot
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"[Statist politicians, especially, should remember...] Those who seek power [over others] are not worthy of that power." - Plato
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"Man rightfully obtains goods and services by producing them from nature or by voluntary exchange with others. Man may exchange goods, services, and emotional values, but he must trade [voluntarily] to obtain them. Otherwise he is a thief acting against human existence." - Charles W. Johnson
Quote from 'The Freeman', April 1969.
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"[Freedom, individualism, authenticity and being yourself so long as you don't hurt another's physical person or property:] Freedom to differ is not limited to things that do not matter much. That would be a mere shadow of freedom. The test of [freedom's] substance is the right to differ as to things that touch the heart of the existing order." - Robert Jackson
U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Quote from West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette [1943].
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"A nation of well-informed men [and women] who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God had given them [that is their unalienable, human birth-rights] cannot be enslaved." - Benjamin Franklin
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"Can any thing be more ridiculous than that a man has a right to kill me [in war or political intrigue] because he dwells the other side of the water, and because his prince has a quarrel with mine, although I have none with him?" - Blaise Pascal
'Pensees', IV, 1670.
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"If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal [US Democrat]. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative [US Republican]. If you want government ... to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate [US swing voter]. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist [US Libertarian]" - Joseph Sobran
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"Whenever the offense inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigor of penal law is obliged to give way to the common feelings of mankind." - Edward Gibbon
'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire', 1776.
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